Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik

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What exactly is the problem here? That there is not a
"safe" area for new players in which to get accustomed to eve or that there isnt a safe area for accustomed players to grind missions/"quests" (gasp- wow reference!!!)?

From what I can tell high sec ganks are ONLY aimed at high end ships such as freighters, faction fitted faction Battleships OR tech two(2) high range mining ships.

Is that an accurate estimate of the situation?

Now, who is flying these ships? If you have a) the necessary Skillpoints and b) necessary financial backing/bankroll to buy these ships than you are NOT a new player therefore the idea that you NEED a safe area in which to learn the game is MOOT.

Hence what we are dealing with is the arguement that there should be a safe area in which to generate isk/ play eve FREE from any RISK whatsoever, correct? Well there is that too. Its called "docking". Alot of these ebil pvpers that I know in fact also run alts in major hubs and TRADE to finance their pvp. So therefore there is, if really necessary- a "safe" area for established players to generate isk and participate without risk of pvp.

So perhaps the general arguement is that industrialists, miners and mission runners/grinders what a risk free environment. Well thats where the dev's were smart enough to draw the line.

Removing the risk removes (essentially) the value of the isk/goods pertained. If you dont believe me go onto the test server and see the types of setups everyone fields there. Only the best. Do they care if they loose it? Nope. So why doesnt everyone just play on the test server? I mean you could totally buy all the bpo's, pos and mine all the roids you could handle. The reason why noone plays solely on Sisi is because ALL RISK IS REMOVED and therefore ALL VALUE IS REMOVED. I dont think anyone wants that for TQ.

So perhaps what you are asking for is special consideration for yourself or someone like you? YOU want to be FREE FROM RISK, while still applying the risk/reward scale to everyone else, therefore producing profit and VALUE.

To this again the majority of the community is going to say NO WUCKING FAY. Not because they would get the bad end of the stick but because it would remove the reason for play.

Alot of us LOVE the fact that eve involves real risk and reward. Its not all one way believe me. Ive blown around 500mil in the last week in lost ships- do you see me on here whining about getting game breaking boosts to my fav ship (although the gallentee recons could use some "unnerfing" when it comes to the damp nerf- grumble grumble)? No you dont. Why? Because it is the reason I play.

There are a plethora of ways to counter suicide ganking in high sec, nothing is broken, nothing is exploited. It just requires you to start using your head to negate risk rather than semi afk l4 missions or mine in expensive ships with no thoughts of security.

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